[why2025-terrain] Team NUTS battery for power grid WHY2025

[Mark]

Dear team Terrain,

Please find my conversation with Team:Safety about the perimeter around the BESS north of FoodCourt/Bar, below.

I hope this bith clarifies things and makes the puzzle slightly easier.

The TL;DR: fencing around the BESS is somewhat flexible, and as long as no semi-fixed structures are placed in the area around the BESS, pedestrians can move there freely.

I hope this helps.

Cheers,
Mark (Dynom)

Sent from Mobile

-------- Original Message --------
On 6/6/25 16:11, Dynom  wrote:

> Hi Jick,
>
> Thanks for your answer, and for clarification. It's a question which arose during our meeting with Terrain, so I'll forward this conversation, so that it might help solve a puzzle they have with the FoodCourt/bar.
>
> Based on what I now understand, a path for pedestrians which ought to remain mostly clear of (semi-)fixed structures around the BESS is fine.
>
> Some form of shielding/fencing (against undesirable button pressing) is requested from NUTS, but doesn't need to interfere pedestrian mobility much as initially anticipated.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Cheers,
> Mark (Dynom)
>
> Sent from Mobile
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> On 6/6/25 08:26, safety at why2025.org  wrote:
>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> The 3-meter perimeter is a meant so that fire cannot catch another building / construction / Car etc.
>> It can be shared with other things like tables for food (I would not mount them against it) but it cannot be against for example a camper or something else that can catch a nasty fire.
>>
>> If you have some ideas, feel free to draw it on a map and share it.
>> I do not know what exactly the challenge is you have, but of course I can think along with you in solutions.
>> I hope that above gives you some guidance as to what you can and cannot do.
>>
>> Warm regards,
>>
>> Jick
>>
>> Van: Dynom <Dynom at protonmail.com>
>> Datum: dinsdag, 3 juni 2025 om 09:59
>> Aan: nuts at lists.why2025.org <nuts_at_lists_why2025_org_kqlwz at simplelogin.co>, safety at why2025.org <safety at why2025.org>
>> Onderwerp: [Nuts] Fwd: Re: Team NUTS battery for power grid WHY2025
>> Hi Team Safety,
>>
>> Yesterday we've had a productive meeting with team terrain. We briefly spoke about the safety barrier around the battery, and there was a bit of uncertainty around the perimeter. It would be lovely if we can get specific about the requirements for it, so that we can help team terrain to solve their immensely complex puzzle, while keeping it safe and enjoyable for our visitors.
>>
>> The location around the battery, especially the bar and its seating area [0], is currently a bit of a puzzle. Part of the discussion was this earlier references about a safety area around the battery, for which we could use some additional clarification.
>>
>> Right now your request is for a 3 meter perimeter around the battery. We'd love to get a better understanding of what this perimeter is and the purpose for it. Apologies in advance if this has already been answered.
>>
>> For context:
>>
>> A perimeter of open-space is something that will much more easily help with the location puzzle in contrast to a fenced perimeter, as that will leave no room for walking around the battery area. If the area is merely for convenient access for emergency services when the proverbial hits the fan, that's less obtrusive and the area can be dual-purpose.
>>
>> Leaning into the assumption that it's also against "accidental" button pressing:
>> The battery itself is a shipping container, that is completely closed off and will be locked down. Including the individually accessible kill-switch, for which a separate panel [1] is available.
>>
>> Thanks for your time in advance.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mark (Dynom)
>>
>> [0] - https://map.why2025.org/#19.15/52.6922885/4.7473731/0/32
>> [1] - BESS kill-switch https://wiki.why2025.org/images/thumb/9/9f/BESS_kill-switch.jpg/300px-BESS_kill-switch.jpg
>> [2] - BESS detail page https://wiki.why2025.org/AF-C10-CY-425-NCPB-200
>>
>> p.s. it's being drawn in on the map by Team:Terrain as we speak.
>>
>>> Van: safety at why2025.org
>>> Naar: killergeek at why2025.org
>>> Verzonden: 16 maart 2025 om 16:14
>>> Onderwerp: Re: Team NUTS battery for power grid WHY2025
>>>
>>> Hi Team NUTS,
>>>
>>> My appologies for the late response, it has been a ‘hacktic’ period.
>>> But on the event I allready paged koffiepot that this was not problem whatsoever, but maybe did not reach you.
>>> My only request is to make sure it:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1. gets drawn on the map,
>>>
>>> 2. There is a safety barrier around it of a couple of meters (e.g. 3), i.e. not placed against a building or trees.
>>>
>>>
>>> But there should be plenty of space in that area.
>>>
>>> Warm regards,
>>>
>>> Firewall / Jick.
>>>
>>> [..truncated for brevity..]
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