[why2025-terrain] Fwd: Suggested edit as discussed?

[Dimitri Modderman]

Thanks for your flexibility on this.
I know it must be crazy busy now for team terrain so much appreciated.

Have a good last stint before the event starts and hope to see you soon!

Kind regards,
Dimitri

On Mon, 28 Jul 2025, 22:51 Gina Muuss, <gina at why2025.org> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Let's do it this way: You are welcome to fiddle with the fence on the
> terrain with whatever Manduca has ordered you.
> I think this is the easiest way of resolving this.
>
> Best,
> Gina
> On 7/28/25 19:13, Roxane Kortland wrote:
>
> Now including team terrain 😁
>
> Op ma 28 jul 2025, 18:38 schreef Dimitri Modderman <
> dimitri.modderman at gmail.com>:
>
>> No this will not work for us.
>> As stated since 7 april the line going up needs to move to the bridge as
>> you cannot move one fence to pass with gator.
>> Manduca has ordered 1 fence and 2 blocks especially for this purpose for
>> us that we than can use and place horizontally so we can safely pass onto
>> the dyke with a gator.
>>
>> So if the team still cannot modify the drawing , then we want approval to
>> do it ourselves. The edge that stays open if you remove the last fence is
>> on a slope and can cause the gator to drop into the water.
>>
>>  This is what was confirmed after the fieldday. There for the kind
>> request to change this and move the top end of the line that goes up, 2m to
>> the right.
>> We then place the gate of manduca horizontally and that gives us a safe
>> way of entering the dyke with the (fire)gator in case of refill/emergency.
>>
>> As said, Manduca already responded so if you are fine we can adjust to
>> still have the terrain fully closed but allowing us for a safe passage on
>> the gator every night.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Dimitri
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 28 Jul 2025, 17:33 Roxane Kortland, <roxane at divd.nl> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Gina
>>>
>>> Thank you for your quick respons!
>>> @Dimitri can you confirm that this will work for you? Or what you need
>>> team terrain to do?
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Roxane
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Op ma 28 jul 2025, 16:59 schreef Gina Muuss <gina at why2025.org>:
>>>
>>>> Dear Roxane,
>>>>
>>>> I kinda don't understand what you need from us. There are fences that
>>>> fence of the bridge from both sides to avoid uninvited guests, and to the
>>>> dyke so that no-one can get hurt.
>>>>
>>>> The fences will be bouwhekken and to get to the refuel the thing you
>>>> will have to move one of them. We don't have specific gate-bouwhekken, so
>>>> which one you use as a 'gate' doesn't really matter to us.
>>>> Is there anything that you actually need us to do?
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Gina
>>>> Team:Terrain
>>>>
>>>> On 7/28/25 16:33, Roxane Kortland wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear future friends of team terrain,
>>>>
>>>> We haven't had the honour to meet yet but my name is Roxane (koffie)
>>>> and I'm the mayor of Area 42/DIVD cluster .Dimitri told me he had a hard
>>>> time to get in touch to make sure the fences are both secure, but also
>>>> accessible for him and Jick so they can refuel the flames.
>>>> Up until now he has not received (or missed) a reaction to his
>>>> proposition. How can we fix this?
>>>>
>>>> When we talked about it Dimitiri told me "I've painted the fence red in
>>>> Paint, and possibly a blue gate that can open and close, or a crowd control
>>>> barrier, but then it might become too easy to just walk onto the dike.
>>>> But if they can at least run the red fences all along the bridge and
>>>> extend them up to the top (the other gate), then the area is completely
>>>> closed off to outsiders.
>>>> Jick and I can still get through the blue gate with a Gator to refill
>>>> the flames every day (dragging 250L of diesel along the entire length of
>>>> the dike is no fun)."
>>>>
>>>> I would very much appreciate a reaction on short term because well,
>>>> we'll be there next week haha so thanks in advance!!
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Roxane " Koffie"
>>>> Cluster D42D (area 42/DIVD)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>> From: Dimitri Modderman <dimitri.modderman at gmail.com>
>>>> Date: Mon, Apr 7, 2025 at 12:05 AM
>>>> Subject: Suggested edit as discussed?
>>>> To: <terrain at lists.why2025.org>
>>>> Cc: Jick van Wijhe <jickvanwijhe at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi lovely people of team terrain!
>>>>
>>>> It was awesome meeting you in real life yesterday (Rox, Gina and Niene)!
>>>> (And Ofcourse RedLizard but i know him already for a long time).
>>>>
>>>> As discussed would it be possible, although not official festival
>>>> terrain, to have some text on the dyke to say Project Firewall or something
>>>> like that as in my beautifully (ahem) crafted MsPaint picture that is
>>>> attached. And maybe in red/yellow to indicate it is a hazardous area (or
>>>> depict the following sign:
>>>> https://www.thecompliancecenter.com/ca/product/pl-mgb02/ ) which
>>>> indicates flammable liquids.
>>>>
>>>> And also, if possible, could you edit the gates at the bridge as in red
>>>> and blue?
>>>> This way it is possible for me to open the blue part and have access to
>>>> the dyke from the festivalterrain, yet it is impossible for outsiders to
>>>> enter through red part of the fencing onto the dyke as that is a very
>>>> dangerous environment to be in (especially after dark ;-) )
>>>>
>>>> @Jick van Wijhe <jickvanwijhe at gmail.com>  you agree with this
>>>> proposal? I do need access to refill. But don't want a way for outsiders to
>>>> come in. And placing the gates against the bridge and partly in/touching
>>>> the water makes it also impossible to walk under the bridge onto the dyke.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks all, and good luck mapping everything on the map. It does look
>>>> amazing.
>>>> Hope the fieldday was as good for you as it was for me?
>>>>
>>>> Kindest regards,
>>>> Dimitri "Hobbybob" Modderman
>>>> PartyArea: Lasers&Flames.
>>>>
>>>>

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